Version 0.599i (+ivy+inca+ipman+irl)
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Own
Moderator
Berserker Style seems to have gotten a stealth nerf? I no longer recover EP when using other skills that hit withit. But Berserker+Whirlslash was pretty strong, so I guess this was inevitable.
Trying to get confirmation on this. Is it intentional that hitting with skills no longer gives back EP?
Because if so Berserker got a lot less viable as a skill, if you constantly end up at 0 EP and have to continuously hit enemies in order to be able to use even a bronze skill charge. Unless it is intended to be primarily a +Basic DMG skill.
The G-Meister
Giga Slime
I believe if you take damage while halfway through a gold-charge Whirlslash it completely negates the damage on the enemies. It's also become a lot less viable as an arcade skill because of this, and also because if enemies take the required damage to die, they stay alive until the last hit from the slash, meaning silver charge+ is almost not worth it, because it'll give you a kick in your time score.
The G-Meister
Giga Slime
This is intentional, and I think that particular decision is correct. If the EP management needs a buff, it should be with something else. Reasoning for this is that you load up on EP in order to get skills off, and its a bit weird that you get EP back for using EP, and also that it's based on number of hits! Gold charge spin cost something like 10EP when abilities triggered the EP regen.
Three ways to improve EP management would be: more EP gain per hit, less EP decay, or that EP decay stops for a moment after using a skill/hitting with one.
Ack, that's a bug! The skill tracks enemies hits and kills them if further hits doesn't connect, but what probably happens here is that the skill is forcibly destroyed when the player gets knocked out of its animation, skipping this rather crucial code path.
Own
Moderator
That's fine with me, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a glitch. It does make Berserker a solo-use skill that turns you into a glass cannon in my opinion, though. +DMG, +CRIT, +ATKSPD, -DEF, -EP. The only place I could see you maybe using another skill in conjunction with it is Arcade Mode, where you get your EP back when moving from room to room.
Maybe getting the +EP-back-on-strike talent would help with 2-skill viability, or +CastSpeed talents. I find it difficult to get up to Silver Charge in other talents before my EP dips below the Silver Charge. As it stands, I reccomend Spirit Potions for anyone running Berserker.
Yeah, I see what you mean. I'd prefer it if this wasn't the case... we'll try to come up with something! It's tough since if it's too swift and easy to get EP for them skills, I think Berserker very quickly becomes a bit too good.
One slightly weird buff might be to massively decrease weapon skill cast times while in Berserker mode, so that they become either instant or near instant. Perhaps they insta-charge up to the current charge of Berserker. Charging up skills neither synergize well with the mechanics nor the idea of an unstoppable barrage!
Renothecollector
Rabby
Quick question, am I going to be allowed to keep all the gold/loot/cards I get using /skillpoint? I only ask because Im ridiculously OP "I have made myself a vessel for darkness, and blood, so much blood" <------penny arcade quote
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Renothecollector
Rabby
Found two bugs, first, I found when you enter buildings sometimes it will exit you automatically. Second, when you are opening multiple presents sometimes it will stop letting you open them.
Yeah, the gained skillpoints are just regular ones, so the game will treat them as any other. If you want to go back to playing within the supposed restrictions, for now you'll have to refund everything with /respec and then just allocate the amount of skills you normally would've gotten!
If you want to experiment with the cheat commands without "tainting" your character, I recommend following Own's example and having one save slot for your "true main" and a second for going all out with cheating!
Renothecollector
Rabby
Cool. I assume you will be taking away the extra skill points sometime in the future?
Own
Moderator
It's your save file, if you want to make a cheaty character it's not like the devs can stop you.
It's really best to just make a copy of your main save file, save that in slot 2 and go wild with it.
Renothecollector
Rabby
Aww man, I think its too late to do that since I already added the extra skill points =(It's your save file, if you want to make a cheaty character it's not like the devs can stop you.
Crazyfighter
Green Slime
The introduction of Frosty Friend say that i cannot desummon my snowman while it is knocked out! But i can do it .
And the gold charge of snowman often stuck by the Hallweed.
And the gold charge of snowman often stuck by the Hallweed.
You're not supposed to be able to give him commands when he's knocked out, but a bug allows you to do all kinds of things
It'll be fixed in the upcoming hotfix!